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Rife · Dec 24, 2008, 09:37 PM // 21:37

Ok so maybe not a treatise just an idea. Why not a feature that requires typing in a word. Like when you create email accounts. Every time you try to enter a match you need to retype a word that appears on the screen. The botting is getting really bad.

Rothan Celt · Dec 24, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

oh lol i hate those things o.O

So no!

Bah!

Fair idea however... not sure it was ever a proplemo

Sora267 · Dec 24, 2008, 10:06 PM // 22:06

No. It'd only start a cat and mouse game between ANet and botters. For other websites, there's bots which can extract the picture of one of those, submit it to a certain website like Decaptcher, and it sends back the word that's contained in the picture, which the bot then inputs. I'm fairly certain something like that could be adapted for GW...

Rife · Dec 24, 2008, 10:25 PM // 22:25

Well something like that. Maybe a simple question like what is 2+2. Anything, there has to be something that can be done that would be simple for a human but impossible for a bot. It's really bad. Over half of the people are bots in my experience. My strategy consists of helping the bots now. If you get to the yellow shrine first you usually win.

Konig Des Todes · Dec 24, 2008, 10:31 PM // 22:31

if bots can move, they can press a couple letters to make a word.

While bots is an issue that needs fixing, this is not really going to help.

Rife · Dec 24, 2008, 10:55 PM // 22:55

Yes they can type words, but only repetitively. If the question changes they would not be able to adapt. Are we not smart enough to think of a device that humans can do that bots can not? If you don't like my idea please suggest your own. I'm trying to open up a discussion. I think the bots are so good, most people don't even notice.

Killed u man · Dec 24, 2008, 11:01 PM // 23:01

Introduce random events a la runescape imo.

Yes, it's a crappy game and this and that (Even tough it ouclasses GW on pretty much every aspect BUT graphics, and I play both games, so I can tell from a neutral point of view) but Jagex (Runescape's Anet) maneged to destroy botting. There still is ALOT of botting going on, but remember, making in account in runescape is free, and doesn't take long at all to set-up a bot.

In Guild Wars, I doubt people will trying 1 more time after they got perm banned for botting.

Anyways, about these random events, it's a really basic array of minigames, which occure randomly every XX hours, and require some brain tought. E.G.: Kill the demon in the next room, and then a room filled with reg "people" enemies, and then a demon.

Bad example, but you get the point. Something a BOT SIMPLY CAN'T DO. Also, DON'T copy Jagex' idea to give shitty rewards, and actually make them worthwhile, so you don't iss off the regular community. (So many QQ threads about randoms on their forums it's not even funny, they simply ARN'T FUN to do time after time again, when there is no good reward)

original. · Dec 25, 2008, 12:00 AM // 00:00

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Originally Posted by Killed u man

Introduce random events a la runescape imo.

Yes, it's a crappy game and this and that (Even tough it ouclasses GW on pretty much every aspect BUT graphics, and I play both games, so I can tell from a neutral point of view) but Jagex (Runescape's Anet) maneged to destroy botting. There still is ALOT of botting going on, but remember, making in account in runescape is free, and doesn't take long at all to set-up a bot.

In Guild Wars, I doubt people will trying 1 more time after they got perm banned for botting.

Anyways, about these random events, it's a really basic array of minigames, which occure randomly every XX hours, and require some brain tought. E.G.: Kill the demon in the next room, and then a room filled with reg "people" enemies, and then a demon.

Bad example, but you get the point. Something a BOT SIMPLY CAN'T DO. Also, DON'T copy Jagex' idea to give shitty rewards, and actually make them worthwhile, so you don't iss off the regular community. (So many QQ threads about randoms on their forums it's not even funny, they simply ARN'T FUN to do time after time again, when there is no good reward)

you seriously should think about your statement that runescape is better than guild wars in every aspect but graphics, i know it is your opinion but this is just not true.
about the whole botting part?
nerf JQ/FA, e.g introduce a new foe or something like that. maybe even something like you require 2 or more players to do JQ/JA as in pre-searings "across the wall" (although it screws up single players but hey, its GUILD wars after all)

~Ori

Bobulation · Dec 25, 2008, 12:13 AM // 00:13

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Originally Posted by original.

nerf JQ/FA, e.g introduce a new foe or something like that. maybe even something like you require 2 or more players to do JQ/JA as in pre-searings "across the wall" (although it screws up single players but hey, its GUILD wars after all)

~Ori

.....Do you know what JQ/FA are....?

original. · Dec 25, 2008, 01:06 AM // 01:06

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Originally Posted by Bobulation

.....Do you know what JQ/FA are....?

o yes, was confused with the faction farms :/
just ignore my above post then

Travek Lavv · Dec 25, 2008, 01:41 AM // 01:41

uh, theres a pretty simple way to ban the d*mn leeches/bots. Most of them leech for long segments of time. Ie "Remember Lots Wife" or "Jum Rock". These guys sit and leech/bot for hours. Just look for names that may not get enough reports during a round but who consistantly get reported every round and tada: every leech in the arena pops up. ban. kthnxsbai. It doesnt take much investigation to go ingame and observe ppl like Lot running his crappy bot script.

Sora267 · Dec 25, 2008, 03:15 AM // 03:15

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Originally Posted by Rife

Well something like that. Maybe a simple question like what is 2+2. Anything, there has to be something that can be done that would be simple for a human but impossible for a bot.

Still won't work. What happens is when the bot submits the picture, a HUMAN who's JOB is to work for that website inputs the correct answer and returns it. You normally have to pay for the website, though...

jonnieboi05 · Dec 25, 2008, 08:35 AM // 08:35

this all sounds like QQ to me. /shrug -Lena

newbie_of_doom · Dec 25, 2008, 10:36 AM // 10:36

This would be really gay. Anet could rather just stop wanking and ban these bots. There was this 'Oh Yo' bot in DA which reported for leeching and botting EVERY MATCH and he didnt get banned during the festival (2week duration, nice). And later he also showed up in FA...

JASON626 · Dec 25, 2008, 07:18 PM // 19:18

leechers are just as bad if not worse. People who sit at there computer watch tv or do some type of work paying minimal attention to GW.

I wouldn't care if i clicked ENTER battle then had to type a word. Takes a whole 4 seconds?

A Non Ymous · Jan 09, 2009, 04:27 AM // 04:27

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Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05

this all sounds like QQ to me. /shrug -Lena

Your opinion comes as no real suprise considering how much time you spend leech-botting in JQ. We know you don't care if you get /reported as all you lose is the Kurz faction and you have maxed the title. No, you are there for the Balth faction for your Z-title. Leech-botting is a liability to your teammates trying to win the battle. This is why I and many in my alliance have reported you numerous times to help.plaync.com complete with screenshots, dates, times, and a description of your method and the districts you were botting from. We are keeping our fingers crossed in hopes of a ban.

Tetrazon · Jan 09, 2009, 04:53 AM // 04:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rife

Ok so maybe not a treatise just an idea. Why not a feature that requires typing in a word. Like when you create email accounts. Every time you try to enter a match you need to retype a word that appears on the screen. The botting is getting really bad.

That's when I hit log off.

warrior running · Jan 09, 2009, 07:28 AM // 07:28

Anet will never be able to get rid of bots all it takes is someone smarter then anet

MStarfire · Jan 09, 2009, 08:54 AM // 08:54

Someone once suggested that we should compound the penalties if you try to enter PvP arenas when you're Dishonoured. I think this is the best idea.

pumpkin pie · Jan 09, 2009, 11:16 AM // 11:16

permanent ban